Listen to the episode Season 4 | Ep 69
On this episode of the Coaching Studio
In this inspiring episode of The Coaching Studio, host Lyssa deHart sits down with Dr. David Drake, founder of Narrative Coaching and CEO of The Moment Institute. Dr. Drake shares his transformative journey from grief counselor to a pioneering thought leader in coaching. Drawing from over 25 years of experience, he discusses the power of narratives in shaping identity, fostering growth, and creating sustainable change.
Listeners are introduced to the essence of Narrative Coaching, a revolutionary approach that focuses on being fully present with clients and allowing their stories to emerge naturally. Dr. Drake explores why traditional goal-driven coaching can miss the mark and explains how cultivating radical presence and engaging in “serious play” can unlock profound shifts in clients’ lives. He highlights the importance of working with what is present, challenging the assumption that clients need to follow predetermined paths.
The conversation also delves into the broader impact of coaching, with Dr. Drake reflecting on the evolving needs of the coaching profession and his groundbreaking Five Maturities framework. This model emphasizes personal and professional maturity, social awareness, and the ability to respond to complex human contexts with integrity and compassion. He shares compelling stories from his career that demonstrate how small yet profound moments of connection and insight can lead to lasting change.
Dr. Drake’s wisdom, humility, and curiosity shine through as he challenges coaches to reimagine their role, embrace the mysteries of human experience, and create spaces for clients to transform. This episode is a must-listen for anyone passionate about the art and science of coaching.
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Dr. David Drake is CEO of The Moment Institute in Amsterdam. He has been a pioneer in the coaching space for over 25 years, including as founder of Narrative Coaching. He created Integrative Development as a powerful new approach to learning & development and has advised organizations such as ARM, Google, Logitech, Nike, PwC, and government agencies on three continents.
He is Head of Ovida Labs, focused on using AI to enrich user journeys and get optimal results from feedback. David is a Thought Leader for Institute of Coaching, a 9x WBECS Summit speaker, and a member of the inaugural class of Coaches50.
He wrote The Five Maturities: A new paradigm for developing coaches: www.themomentinstitute.com/the-five-maturities. He facilitates retreats based in this work and advises projects to help coaching evolve. He has written 75 publications, including as co-editor of SAGE Handbook of Coaching and author of Narrative Coaching: The Definitive Guide to Bringing New Stories to Life.
About the Host
Lyssa deHart ditched her therapy practice to become a Leadership Confidence Coach. Along the way she discovered a passion for professional coaching and wanted to find ways to share that passion with the world. Come join her in discovering and meeting some of the most amazing professional coaches on the planet. Her goal is to inspire coaches. Lyssa is the author of Sticky Outcomes: at the Intersection of Coaching, Neuroscience, and Lasting Change, StoryJacking: Change Your Dialogue, Transform Your Life, The Reflective Coach - a 12 Month Journal, and Light Up: the Science of Coaching with Metaphors. Lyssa is an ICF MCC Coach, PCC Assessor, Certified Mentor Coach, and Coach SuperVisor. Lyssa uses her understanding of the ICF Core Competencies, combined with her knowledge of Neuroscience, to work with people to become extraordinary professional coaches. Let's Go!
