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I am very excited to welcome Ihab Badawi, MCC to the Coaching Studio Podcast.

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  • Host: Lyssa deHart, LICSW, MCC
  • Music: Frolic by Harrison Amer
  • Production Editing: Lyssa deHart
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Lyssa deHart Hello, Lyssa deHart here. And welcome to the Coaching Studio. Today in the studio, it’s my pleasure to introduce Ihab Badawi. He is a Master Certified Coach with the International Coaching Federation, he is a Certified Marketing Expert, and a Certified Franchise Expert. Ihab is a corporate advisor in leadership coach with over 22 years of experience in international business management, corporate transformation, and international business development. He is a catalyst of change and the founder of the Coaches Circle Academy which enables coaches to create deep impact and instill positive change. His exposure from operating in 58 markets around the globe, fuels his capacity to connect with others and bridge cultural gaps. Ihab is now based in Vancouver British Columbia where he resides with his wife and his three beautiful daughters. He has an upcoming book in the second quarter of 2022 called Transcendence Leadership Coach. Did I say that correctly, Ihab?
Ihab Badawi Yeah, well it’s going to be the Transcendence Leader Coach.
Lyssa deHart Okay, Transcendence Leader Coach, thank you for correcting me, thank you so much for being on the Coaching Studio. I’m so happy to have you here.
Ihab Badawi It’s my pleasure, Lyssa, I’m so glad to be part of this mission that you are on. And, I’m inspired by the effort that you’re doing.
Lyssa deHart Well, thank you very much. Well, it has been, it has been such a joy because I have this opportunity to ask these questions of these amazing coaches and so. So to that end let’s go. I am always fascinated by the journey that a person takes to become an MCC coach and to really spend the time and energy and invest, investment of themselves into something so deeply and I love to hear a bit of what your evolution into coaching has been.
Ihab Badawi It was a quite great journey actually. Um, I was in the corporate world trying to make the best that I can for my team and we were in sales, marketing, business development, this is the commercial aspect that we were in. And um it just hit me after a few years that down the road um looking at all the success that we had and it wasn’t about strategy, it wasn’t about the implementation that we were having, it was about how we were able to coach and develop our team and turn it so that they can evolve to be better leaders as well. And they have done great, great achievements. And this just hit me that coaching is one of the most transformative uh approaches that a leader can take. And since then I embarked on this journey and I’ve been addicted to that journey since it led me to leave the corporate world and establish uh an entity to support other leaders across the globe. So uh we went through the process of going into professional coaching embracing the ICF Coaching uh Competencies because I wanted a kind of a disciplined framework so that to make sure that we are on the right track coaching people with the right standard and have that codes, codes of ethics embedded in the profession that we are, we are having and that has been a great journey since.
Lyssa deHart You know, and something that you just said, which is I think really important because I speak to a lot of people, as do you, and there is a sense of, you know, anybody can call themselves a coach. And one of the things that I heard you really bring up is this framework as well as a code of ethics. How did having a code of ethics shift the way that you were working with people?
Ihab Badawi Oh, it’s actually a great um, I would say a compass for you to be able to know where do you stand in relation to your client. And having a code of ethics actually disciplines the coaching profession as a whole, as you know, in many parts of the world, coaching is actually in its maturing or developing state and therefore making sure that coaching as a profession is governed by the codes of ethics allows more safety and a more safe environment for the client to operate in and for the coach to have a kind of a compass. Where do I stand? How far can I go with my client? And where can I be of better service? And at what point do I need to refer my client to a specialist or where do I draw the line for the benefit?
Lyssa deHart Yeah. You know and I find that very much the same. Um It is, it’s a beautiful compass. And I was reading something recently about how that with the changes in the competencies that have happened in the last year or so that really looking at how coaches demonstrate staying in the coach role versus jumping into consultant or jumping into educator or jumping into xyz. What was that transition like for you? Because I mean most of us come to a certain age in our life, probably seven years old, and we think we’re now the experts and everything and I’m wondering how coaching has, how you’ve allowed yourself to let go as some of that so that you can really be with your clients?
Ihab Badawi That’s a brilliant question and that’s why now currently I’m so much immersed into coaching wholeness and vulnerability because and this is what we do at the Coaches Circle Academy is that we spend lots of time and I’m so glad with the ICF stressing the point of having a coaching mindset which actually it connects a lot with the codes of ethics as well and how you need to be present with the client and focusing with the client as a whole. And what’s interesting about that is that when I started, I started transitioning from corporate established the first company and we were too much into consulting because we carry lots of experience with us. And we used to, if you allow me just because this is very important to highlight for how coaching is important and how does it transform uh your business and other people as well. So we were consulting for a group of companies across the GCC Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Dubai and we felt that we need to integrate more support to the client, so integrated training as well. So consulting would provide the solution training, would ensure that they have the skill set to implement, but there was always something missing and this is where coaching completed the whole circle because coaching was all about changing the mindset of the the CEO or the C suite or the directors of the middle management, so this allowed sustainability. And the interesting part is that for me to be able to do so I had to go into a transition myself, I was so much in the consulting mindset before, so we know we are experts, we come in, we give the advice and we are really looking for the proper impact for the client. But going into the coaching field and I must admit that when I started going into the real coaching world after the second model, I said, you know, I’m gonna drop out, I’m gonna drop out because I’m so much hung, hung up to the consulting side of the business and then at one moment I remember one of the models. I was so much immeshed in it and I was able to tap on that vulnerability and since then it transformed the way as a coach would connect with the client being always vulnerable, being always open not to know what’s there. And being in the not knowing approach would allow you to embrace the fact that you need to have a safe environment for you and the client to explore. And there is nothing to really just I want to find out or the client has to find out what will come on its own because you believe that your client has it within and we were able to embrace that environment.
Lyssa deHart Yeah. The thing that you’re speaking to that is I think so important which is uh we can’t keep anything that we don’t generate out of our own minds. And so you can have a consultant come in and tell you what you need to do and even give you training so that you can do it. But if you don’t find a way to embody it for yourself, as soon as you’re stressed out, it’s gone, right? It just disappears and you know and what you’re speaking to also at least uh for me I can very much relate to which is it’s it is an emotional shift to let go of that ego of knowing. Um I know what you need to do, I know how you need to do it. Let me tell you how to fix an XYZed right? And um and so I just I love hearing that. What was that journey like? Because I mean you also you went from, I presume and I’m making an assumption here, so please correct me. But ACC to PCC to MCC. What was that journey arc like for you? Because there’s a lot of correlations in that, that journey as well.
Ihab Badawi Absolutely. Absolutely. And that was a really transcending journey for me because it was about embracing that not knowing approach and really accepting that you know what I’m starting a new profession and no matter how high you were in the corporate world, no matter what, you know, it is so nice to start embracing unlearning to learn that that concept of you know what I’m into the not knowing and I’m into that wonder of wanting to know more and expanding my knowledge in that approach. And really being at that moment accepting and embracing that allowed me to enjoy every step of the way. So I went into my professional training into coaching and it was the first day that I took a decision that I would like to go directly to the PCC. So when I enrolled, I enrolled for the whole process to the PCC and because I was so much involved in corporate coaching which allowed me to sharpen my skills while being trained. So we’ve analyzed the first journey but didn’t apply for the ACC, I went directly for the PCC. So I continue my training while coaching. And after that when we, I acquired my my my PCC and started uh more shifting my time from consulting and training the team was more into consulting and training and I was more focused into 1-1 coaching with executives and group coaching. And I started loving more and more training people also and inviting them to the coaching field because it was transforming me as a person and it shifted all our approaches. And if I can say now we don’t just consult, that we have three kinds of services consulting, corporate consulting on cultural engineering. We do training corporate training and development. And we have the executive coaching. I would say now confidently, that we do consulting coaching or coaching consulting and coaching training because we embedded coaching into consulting and into training not the other way around because as a consultant you can coach what you are consulting, but as a coach, you cannot consult.
Lyssa deHart You know what please speak more to that because I hear people all the time, I’m a consultant and so therefore they have a framework, they have an idea of what that means. But you’re saying it’s coaching with elements of consulting. How do you? Tell me, uh speak more.
Ihab Badawi Actually, we embedded coaching in consulting but we didn’t allow consulting to go to come to coaching. So when we uh to completely in the coaching so on. But what I saw and we developed new programs to support people like if you’re a consultant and you want to upscale your consulting impact, okay. You can embed coaching into consulting and I saw it is, it is a game-changer because when you as a consultant coming to your client as a consultant to position yourself as an expert and you provide the solution, okay? And you provide all the answers. But if you’re a consultant with the coach’s mindset, you would be more inquisitive, you would be more appreciative of what the client already has and you can build on that and allow really the client to tap on untapped potential. And so, and when it comes to trainers, for example, when they embrace that coach’s mindset as well when they are training, it’s not only about transferring the knowledge, it’s about what we call generative learning. So you become coming in with a generative learning approach. So you use that power of powerful inquiry and questions to allow the learning to come from within the room rather than from the facilitator himself. And that is also a game-changer as well. So when it comes to coaching and consulting um there’s lots of discussions as you certainly said now as to how far can the coach go when it comes to sharing, for example, a story with the client. Or mentioning something that has happened with the coach as well during the coaching process. My personal take would be if you’re a consultant doing that story, you can embed your coaching to get things outside of the client from the, from from from within. But as a coach, I wouldn’t recommend touching based on stories and sharing parts of the elements of the coach’s experience because borderline that might be leading and directing.
Lyssa deHart Yeah, and I really appreciate that also because it’s so you know, I’m under the, this is sort of my two cents. I think any time we ask a question we’re leading somebody somewhere. We can’t help it because we’ve now primed the pump with the question for something. And so I really have a feeling that the more we can take ourselves out of the question in the sense of what are you noticing? Yeah, I’m leading you towards your noticing but I don’t know the answer. So kind of to your earlier point, it’s being in that space of asking questions, I don’t know the answer to, right?
Ihab Badawi Absolutely. And actually, I’m glad to touch base on that. We were having our training in our academy training for the PCC actually, and we were diving into evoking awareness, and part of that is going into the start of questions and creating an awakening for the client. And the discussion was like, all right, how would we really differentiate sometimes between a question that might lead the client somewhere, for example, weighing options like if it’s just one option more than the other this might indirectly mean for the client that you are leading there. So the idea, how do you create the benefit? And as you said, is that’s quite moving yourself away from the question and making sure is this a question coming from a complete wonder? Or it comes from a geared curiosity towards a certain aspect?
Lyssa deHart Yeah. Yeah. And I think that that I think that’s it, right? That complete wonder. And, and again, the not knowing the answer nor having an agenda that’s moving the client towards a specific outcome. Like, hey, I think you need to learn this. So I’m going to ask you questions to try and elicit this out of you, right? A very different kind of inquiry. Um you know, I hear a lot of passion in the work that you’re doing. I hear your excitement and enthusiasm as you’re talking and I love it. How do you keep that alive inside of yourself? How are you, how do you do that?
Ihab Badawi So interesting that you, you asked me this question actually, and this is the blessing that I had by moving into a field when you are so much doing things that you’re passionate about. So if you do what you love, then you wouldn’t feel that you’re working any day of your life. So I wouldn’t consider that we are doing any work. I would say that we are living part of the process, growing while supporting others to grow. And that was part of my finding my own, my own purpose, and my own mission and vision in in in in what do I want to do. Um so um I would say that it comes just because I’m doing what I really love and when I’m able to contribute to others actually, and this is the way we approach anything that I do. If I’m able to contribute and create impact, I would believe that I’m growing and this gives me the internal motivation. And from a business perspective, we never think of the financial return because I have a great belief that if you create that impact, financial gains are to gonna come anyways. So this frees me as as a person and as a coach from any expectations and any worry. I don’t have to worry about how things are going to turn because I’m really showing up to my clients as really for them rather than for my own profession. And the more I’m authentic about it, the more it provides, it provides a kind of an indirect return of allowing people to accept that authenticity and actually appreciating it and it flows. So I would say every day when I wake up I said, you know what I want to grow and part of my growth is seeing my clients grow. And this is how the cycle goes.
Lyssa deHart And it continues to your point earlier, generatively sustain you because there’s that constant generative flow happening between you and the experience that you’re having. You mentioned something a little bit earlier which is at some point in your coach development you’re like, oh forget it, I’m not going to do this, this is like, right? How did you get past that? Because I meet a lot of coaches who are like, I don’t want to have to coach like that. Like I have to give up everything that I know in order to be a coach, like that. Like the ICF wants me to be a coach. How did you navigate through that, that discomfort?
Ihab Badawi Actually, it was quite interesting days. Um At that point I stood up, I came to my room leader, we used to call them in front of the leader and I went up and I said you know what, I’m gonna wait till the end of the day, but I’m gonna leave, I’m not gonna show up tomorrow. And even though I signed up for the whole program, but I don’t feel that it’s me. Still, my approach was you know what, I don’t pretend that I know but I come from a logical background and you are talking about opening up. I want to be in the executive coaching. What does it mean for me to open it up and embracing my own emotions and opening up for emotion with the client, I don’t want to go there. And his advice, and I really thank him for that, he said like just give it one more day and just let it be. And that is the point where the second day we talked about vulnerability and then I knew the power as a leader, how much you can evolve by being vulnerable. And as a human being at the end of the day. And this took a lot of research from me because now I advocate that if you’re in the corporate, all life coaching, or executive coaching, it doesn’t matter there is the human being behind that. You’re not coaching the topic and that human being is a combination between the emotion and the cognitive realization. So no matter what you do, the emotions are going to be part of that. And I just unlocked the third day and I really thanked him for that. And since then I was more powerful in terms of even showing up as a leader because I’m okay with being vulnerable.
Lyssa deHart Right, and when you say vulnerability, the thing that really shows up for me is this capacity also to be transparent, right? This transparency of whatever it is, I’m struggling here or I you know, this is how I understand something, however that plays out. You know, you’ve just said something also about we’re not coaching situations we’re coaching people, and I’ve heard varying themes on this. I have my own. Um, but I really think it’s such a powerful, powerful reminder that we can get really stuck in the minutia of the situation, but the situation is the situation and probably none of us have any control over it. So how do we want to be in relationship to the situation that we find ourselves in? And so I really appreciate you sharing that also, through your own experience. Of like okay vulnerability is required. How will I be in relationship with my vulnerabilities so that I can expand that out to the people that I work with. And, and that makes me wonder also about the vulnerability that leaders really need to demonstrate in order to really not only have a vision but to get followers to that vision. To have a vision that’s big enough to actually have people want to work for it. What have you seen where leaders are able to transcend but by that sort of vulnerability and transparency?
Ihab Badawi Absolutely. Um the way I’ve experienced it, whether in the Middle East or India subcontinent or Asean or China, getting involved with different types of leaders and having the pleasure also to contribute to for the evolution of certain leaders all across these. And uh the biggest impact was seeing also the cultural differences also like operating in China, operating in India subcontinent and the Middle East and looking and and and America and Europe and seeing the different mindsets. One common thing is that if you if you are a leader with a vision, the key here is to transform your vision to become a shared vision. And a shared vision needs to be embraced by others. Which brings you to uh inclusion. I would put more weight on inclusion more than diversity because if you are inclusive, that means it’s ipso facto you are embracing diversity. Because if I want to include people, I wouldn’t care for age, race, sex, whatever. All right, It’s about including everybody in and to invite people and include them in your vision. You need to be vulnerable because if you are vulnerable leader, that means you would accept not knowing and accept more, more, even advanced concept of that. If you’re vulnerable, that means you wouldn’t mind requesting support. And requesting support would reciprocate by them accepting you as a leader, trusting you that you are opening up for that team. So that’s the key here actually, which allows a leader to have a more empowered vision by opening up and saying, you know what, this is my vision and I would love everybody to contribute and guess what? I don’t know everything. I agree to contribute.
Lyssa deHart Yes. Yeah, and from my perspective, that’s really that that sense of confidence where a leader can say, I don’t know everything and I really want to have all of these different perspectives so that I can see what is going to be most resonance. I think, you know, I think um there’s a quote that says if you want to go far, go alone. You know, if you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together, right? And it’s that sense of how do we invite that, that the disciplines of different perspectives? And how did you say that? Because I really enjoyed that. It’s not so much about um in in diversity, it’s about inclusion because by including people whereby ipso facto going to have more diversity, and I think it really takes um that leader as coach. I mean, and here’s where that coaching mindset of that self-reflective process, maybe even comes in for leaders where somebody is going to share something that maybe we disagree with and yet we want that to show up in the space because it may be beneficial to our ultimate vision and outcome. Yeah.
Ihab Badawi Absolutely, absolutely. And if you want to take it into a leadership concept or perspective, allowing the team to share things that are possibly not taken into consideration by you or don’t fit your agenda as a leader at the end of the day, or don’t fit your project, but being open to allow people to contribute. And it will open two things. Number one, them feeling the sense of engagement because at least they have let something out and they told that there is a listener there, and that’s why I advocate the leader coach because it’s not about you knowing, it’s about you actually listening, appreciating the team by listening to them and accepting what they have. You don’t have to embrace it, you don’t have to implement it. But the idea is to allow them to be engaged and share this is one second allowing them the chance to contribute to that vision. Even in like 0. 1%, but for them we have contributed as being listened to and possibly we shaped parts of that. And third would be for the leader that no matter what you would be touched, you would be shaped by the contribution of other.
Lyssa deHart Yeah. What I’m seeing words behind you um inspire, believe, partnership, knowledge, clarity, enlightenment, nurturing, growth, awakening. And I’m also thinking trust. It’s entrusting your people right to give that trust so that they can trust you back as well.
Ihab Badawi Absolutely. Absolutely! Like these words actually, this is interesting this we created this during the ICW and we were sitting with the team and we’re connected virtually because some of them are in other parts of the world and we said you know what in the ICW we want to contribute. So we want to support and what is the message that we want. And we sat down and said what is our academy all about and forget the academy, even what’s our message and our message is about transcendence coaching. And what this transcendence coaching all about? And we started like scribbling all of these points and talking about from the heart, what comes to you as a team and everybody contributed the words and that end up with this one. And you touch on an extremely important point as a show of trust. Some people approach their team, approach their people and this is very important as coaches, by the way, if you’re used to letting people prove that they are trustworthy, then you would fall short as a coach. As if, coach as a true leader coach, for example, you need to approach people with the trust in mind, there is nothing for you to prove, you know what trust is in the air. I would provide trust and this will be inviting for people to reciprocate. So if I trust you and I come with a trusting mindset actually, this leads to more assertive behavior for the leader because this shows confidence. You are not waiting for indicators to trust people, just embrace the people in front of you. Uh then deal with whatever shows up because I’d be really astonished because if you come with a skeptical mind, you are pushing people to avoid us. But if you come with an open heart, you know what I trust you and I trust your capability and when I look at you, I’m not looking at the deficiencies or the weaknesses, forget them, all the development areas. Just forget that I’m looking at what the beauty in you and the beauty comes in terms of your knowledge, in terms of how you show up, your personality, what you can contribute. And this will be great and inviting. And this is what gives us also with our clients, we come with a full trust put on the table and luckily the client would also reciprocate that trust.
Lyssa deHart Yeah, well, and I and I absolutely agree with you because I think especially as a coach, if you’re really trying to create that, the core competency for trust and safety, right? Without that trust that you bring to the client that they’re capable, whole, resourceful, creative, then they can never trust themselves either. Right? And so it is really the kind of the irony of how trust works, we must give it in order for not only to receive it but for other people who don’t believe in themselves yet to believe it for themselves as well. What do you think is something that all young coaches really need to hear from you?
Ihab Badawi Mm, there are lots of things that we can. I’ve learned a lot from other coaches as well. And I was lucky enough to on my journey to have met experienced coaches and I’ve embraced what they have and I’ve also built on what they have so that I can extend it even further. And I’m sure lots of coaches when they come in then hear us talking, for example, they might be inspired because one angle you’re gonna take it far and stretching, it depends how much they embrace a growth mindset. And for me it’s everyday evolving. So there is nothing and if a message I’m going to share with everyone who comes as part of my journey of developing as a coach and them being wanting to become coaches as well. Uh one of the things is embracing it pure growth mindset, that means as a coach, it’s not about the certification. And since we are talking about masterful coaching or being an MCC, I say that you are being, you are able to be a masterful coach, no matter what credentials you have. The idea is to be masterful at the ACC and masterful at the PCC and masterful at the MCC, definitely it’s a great journey to reach that, that level and it’s so much rewarding as well. But the core is number one, remembering that you are here for the client and not for the situation. So even, even the balance, you remember we talked about the ACC, PCC, and MCC, the balance between the coaching the “what” which is the issue at hand and coaching the “who. ” I would say embrace coaching is coaching the who from the start and look at, look at the client and be with the client, trust yourself, trust your training, trust the process, but coaching is not about when we say a formal or a disciplined profession, it’s a disciplined profession with the scope but you are so much flexible in between. Or let it be in the moment and just be present, so presence and the coach’s mindset are two things that go hand in hand. And for me, they build the other competencies because if I am present, I’m able to show up in the moment and connect with my client, this will lead into trust and safety because your client is not going to trust you if he doesn’t see that somebody is here for him or her. That means you are sitting across from your client and you are totally connected with the client. This is rewarding and empowering. This is very, it’s an extremely important and in our training we spend a lot of time on building partnership and presence, that’s that and then trust and safety evolves out of that, and from there you, due to your presence, your active listening becomes sharper. So you are totally in the moment, you are able to listen to what is said and what is not said, all right, without putting too much effort into it because of presence and because if you’re active listening now we are able to pick up on the gems from the client and you are able to come up with questions in the moment, which evokes awareness at the end of the day.
Lyssa deHart Yeah.
Ihab Badawi This is, this is the two cents that I’m able to share.
Lyssa deHart A beautiful two cents and the thing that it really just sort of shines a light on also is how we need to tune our listening, not just at the words, but at all these multiple different levels of listening. And then test our assumptions and hypotheses, but asking with curiosity, what does that mean to you? How does that show up for you? So that the client is always in that leadership position for the coach and leading the coach through what’s important to them. What are you up to in 2022 that you’d like to share with us? So we, we kind of alluded to your book, but please share more.
Ihab Badawi What’s like, that’s gonna be an exciting year actually. Uh, the COVID came to us as a challenge and we embraced that challenge and that allowed us to evolve a lot. We created lots of programs and, and intensified our coaching presence with our clients. And it has been a blessing since then, uh, launching our new approaching coaching for the academy and launching other programs. 2022 is going to be um more into developing and learning continuous learning platform for coaches around the globe, which is going to be announced next year. And it goes by the name Transcendence by the way as well. So it’s gonna be a platform whereby you will be able to find lots of material and references and support for you to evolve as a coach in different practices. Number one in the coaching field itself and how we can evolve further as the coach as part of your continuous development. And second, would be how to support you to actually launch your business as a coach. We are in the, in the, in the field of supporting other people, but coaches need to sustain themselves. And I see lots of coaches coming earning their certifications and then not continuing.
Lyssa deHart I don’t think we have a good structures in many organizations or schools to really support what’s next. Or what all’s required in order to have a coaching business. Very few coaches that I know, you may be unique in this, but I have a suspicion that this will resonate for you also, very few coaches have one thing they’re doing, many of them have multiple different things that they’re doing that all begin to pull different revenue streams towards them, you know.
Ihab Badawi My support in that area and what I like to offer coaches and this we embedded in our coaching, the name of the coaches circle come from this is that we are a culture circle, a community of coaches, a circle of different coaches, each specialized in its own niche and to be able to support coaches to specialize in their own niche and not requiring to do many, multiple matters. That is, we need to educate them, support them also to launch a proper uh business and profession to sustain themselves and even thrive. And it’s definitely the right to become so much successful in that area because guess what, whenever they’re successful they’re going to impact more people positively. Yeah, we support our coaches as well in terms of personal branding, business development, marketing for entrepreneurs. And we are in 2022 we’re gonna even expand that more. So it’s not gonna be only for those who come to and be trained at our academy, we’re gonna offer that business gift for all the coaches around the globe, ACC, PCC, MCC. And given our background in the like, being uh previous professionals in marketing and sales and business development, we’re gonna transform all these 22 years of experience and put it in the hands of coaches so that they can really thrive in different markets. And one more thing, having the experience in 58 markets, I hope that I will be able to share all of that with people like, what do you need to do to tap into? We are in the virtual world and now it’s a global community. How can I coach and not to be trapped in cultural gaps? How would I approach and position myself as a coach, first crossing my message across borders one? And second, when I coach, how to avoid cultural gaps and this is very important. So I hope 2022 is going to allow me to put that in the service of the community so that would be very much exciting.
Lyssa deHart Well, I will definitely be having links to your program below the podcast so people will have an opportunity to reach out and go see what you’re up to. Thank you so much for being on the Coaching Studio today. I really appreciated having the opportunity to spend some time with you.
Ihab Badawi Same here.

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Lyssa deHart ditched her therapy practice to become a Leadership Confidence Coach. Along the way she discovered a passion for professional coaching and wanted to find ways to share that passion with the world. Come join her in discovering and meeting some of the most amazing professional coaches on the planet. Her goal is to inspire coaches. Lyssa is the author of StoryJacking: Change Your Dialogue, Transform Your Life. She is an ICF PCC Assessor, Certified Mentor Coach, and budding Coach SuperVisor. Lyssa uses her understanding of the ICF Core Competencies, combined with her knowledge of Neuroscience, to work with people to become extraordinary professional coaches. Let's Go!

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