Season 2, Episode 37

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Welcoming Angelos Derlopas MCC to the Coaching Studio Podcast

the Coaching Studio Guest

I am happy to welcome Angelos Derlopas, MCC, to the Coaching Studio Podcast.

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Learn more about Angelos Derlopas, MCC by visiting his website Positivity Global Coaching
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  • Host: Lyssa deHart, LICSW, MCC
  • Music: Frolic by Harrison Amer
  • Production Editing: Lyssa deHart
  • Social Media and Communications: Michele Logan

About This Episode


I am delighted to introduce you to Angelos Derlopas, MCC. We traveled through several important topics, including becoming comfortable with discomfort, courage in changing careers, cultural awareness, and the power of mentoring.

Angelos Derlopas is a thought leader and reputed coach, coach educator, mentor, and supervisor. Director of Education at Positivity Coaching, Master Certified Coach (ICF MCC-the highest level of accreditation for coaches held by just 4% of all coaches worldwide) with an Advanced Certification in Team Coaching (ICF ACTC) and an Accredited Coach Supervisor (EMCC ESIA). 30 yrs of business experience. 20,000 hours of coaching. Clients in 130 countries. Conference speaker on three continents. Trained 1,000 coaches. Academic studies include MBA and MSc in Psychology. Book author. Director of Education of ICF LEVEL 2, former ACTP, accredited coaching education program. Trains and certifies Mentor Coaches. Subject matter expert in ICF Global for the updated Core Coaching Competencies and the Team Coaching Competencies. Angelos’ values in coaching include clarity, diversity, intention, and action. While his values in life include justice, integrity, and human rights.

Read the transcript of this episode of the Coaching Studio Podcast:

Lyssa Hello Lyssa deHart here, your host for The Coaching Studio. And welcome to the studio. I am very excited to introduce a person who I’ve known for quite a while. I, uh, consider a friend, Angelos Derlopas, and he is an MCC coach with the International Coaching Federation, as well as being a Coaching Supervision supervisor with the EMCC. So Angelos hails from Greece and, uh, coming from such a long way away. Angelos, thank you so much for being on the Coaching Studio today.
Angelos Thank you for inviting me. Lyssa, I truly feel like a friend, like an old friend with you. And I, uh, really admire what you’re doing. I’m very happy to be here.
Lyssa Yes. I was thinking the last time I saw you, like, was when we met in Prague, I think when we were both there for the coaching, uh, Converge Conference.
Angelos You’re right. Yes. I had recently saw that photograph. We met in Prague. We met in Warsaw, so all European places in Warsaw when we were the chapter of President. So we met at the Global M, uh, Leaders Forum. Right.
Lyssa That’s right. In Warsaw also. Yeah. Well, you have to come to the United States, apparently, because we need to meet on my turf occasionally. So, Angelos, thank you so much again for being here. And I think I kind of gave you a little snippet about sort of really the curiosity being about you and your coaching development and really this movement that you made from even finding coaching towards moving towards mastery level coaching. I would love to hear a bit of your story.
Angelos Thanks, Lyssa. Um, it’s a bit straight, and sometimes it might sound like a cliche because it’s true, I guess. I, uh, think that it was a kind of calling. So I had my previous career before coaching, uh, as a profession, I was managing different corporations. So you could say that on the one hand, uh, ah, it organically developed as a need to acquire people skills. When you’re managing people, you need people skills. So coaching is the right place to go, on the one hand. But as I said earlier, uh, it was a kind of calling, because as far back as I can remember myself when I was growing up, I was really enjoying, um, the kind of friendship when you have these deep conversations. And I was getting that feedback in many ways that, uh, there was something happening there. And I was so interested just being there, holding that place, as we say right now. Because when you’re young, you don’t have these kind of words. You don’t have the words, but you can understand that there is something happening there, uh, giving the space for the other and making that connection, and then, um, trying to observe and understand how does that person feel, or how does he or she organizes, uh, themselves, uh, and work their way through life. What’s important to them? The things that we call values in coaching and how they can create different, uh, outcomes? How can they change what is happening in their lives, in their families? Back then, when very young, that was one of the most important issues, right? So I felt like this was a calling. And then at some point, I don’t know if you have experienced that it’s like, will this become a dormant situation? Uh, and then at some point, gradually, there are things that are happening that awaken that in you. You and understand that, uh, personal development, personal growth, uh, is important to you. So you follow a number of occasions and you understand that this is meaningful for you. Uh, so luckily, coaching came to my awareness. So at some point, when it was the right way, I guess, uh, I started, uh, coaching. Coaching. And that felt like a natural place for me, like, where I was meant to be. Like the right conversations, being in the right place, and having the right intentions when you’re having the conversation. That felt very resonated with me. Does that answer your question?
Lyssa Well, and I love this idea of this thing that’s really sort of dormant inside of you that really started to emerge. And then you found coaching, and it just really resonated with the place that you were emerging into. I think that’s beautiful. You said something else, and it sort of reminded me of, uh, something I said to myself when I was probably about 27 years old, uh, 25 years old, something like that. I was a waitress. And I remember saying to myself, I want to ask a more important question right, than the ones that I was asking as a waitress. And so that was the thing that moved me into graduate school and then ultimately towards therapy, uh, and then coaching. But this idea of this emergence, I really resonate with myself. And so this emergence of wanting to be in a different kind of relationship with the people around us also. That’s beautiful. And then as you got into coaching, what was it that had you move towards MCC? Because a lot of people come into coaching for a myriad of similar reasons of this emergence, of this new way of being and the work that they’re doing with themselves, but they don’t necessarily choose to become somebody who’s studied enough and done all the required trainings and mentorship and all the different things required for mastery. What was the driver for you towards mastery?
Angelos Well, you can see that on one hand, it’s because I, uh, used to, uh, put the bar high, so I want to be as best as I can. But on the other hand, to be honest, I fell in love with that thing. And every, uh, well, not every day, but every year, I was attending a number of trainings, and I wanted to learn more. And it was not just a need or some or an addiction of some sort. It was that I was… Love I was feeling love and I was receiving love. This was something that felt home. It was something that felt like, um, the answer to what you said when you were waitressing. At some point you realized that, um, there must be uh, other questions that, ah, you can uh, ask people and that you want to ask better questions. When you start coaching, I remember myself back then, um, I realized that the more competent I became, the more safe the way, uh, the coaching I provided was. Safe in a way that I was um, certain that when I do X, uh, the result would be Y and not something close to Y. So that i s becoming more competent is usually achieving, ah, uh, the accurate results. Knowing exactly what to do is like mastering your craft. You want to love it, you are good at it and you want to become better at it. I think that must be the same for everyone.
Lyssa Yeah, I don’t know if it is the same for everyone, but it definitely speaks to you. And I also align with that idea of falling in love with something and then wanting to continue to grow and develop that craft of how we are with people. And you said something interesting and I think I heard you correctly, which was as you became better at your craft, you actually became safer in the coaching container because you understood the questions that you were asking and the outcome. Uh, and this maybe even speaks to positivity coaching but like that you’re not leading the person towards the situation or towards something negative I’m guessing here. So I would love to have sort of your thoughts about how that created more safety and more structure maybe isn’t the right word, but I’m just going to launch this at you here. Hot potato. Go with that.
Angelos I know it’s hot potato. Uh well even the notion that you must feel comfortable to feel uncomfortable, it’s a muscle. You have to learn that and you have to practice that. And it helps if you know better your methodology. M, and helps as you practice. You reflect, you study, you understand, you notice yourself and you understand what is happening for you as you’re coaching with someone else in the room. So when I say safe, I don’t mean that, uh, I opt in for mechanic coaching or robotic coaching. That’s not my style. However, I think one of the things that are important for people and I remember when I was, uh, explaining that to people who were, um, expressed some kind of interest in trained in training, coaching, trained themselves. And they were saying some of them were saying that, uh, in my capacity as a leader, as a manager and so on, I’m doing some kind of coaching, but I want to learn it better. What do you think that I will learn better here? And the most, uh, convincing thing. That felt convincing for me, but apparently it was convincing for them as well, that it would be more safe. You know exactly what to do. You will know what to do. You will learn your craft. Uh, so it means you will become more competent, to put it in simple ICF terminology.
Lyssa Yes, more competent. And I think also there’s an element of confidence. Right. Also, as you have that comfort level, somebody says something, and maybe they say a lot of something, because often clients will come to us with a huge download of information. And that confidence to not be overwhelmed by that, to tug on the threads that are maybe most important, um, out of what they’ve shared, so that we are most useful also. Not just competent, but confident to be useful. I think that’s the thing that’s showing up as you speak.
Angelos Confidence. Confidence is always important. Uh, the right amount of confidence. Right. The case. Overly confident, not arrogant, but confidence. Yes, it is important. And confidence in what you’re doing and, um, being resourceful and being, um the more that, you know, uh, the more experience you have, you are becoming more flexible, more agile, so you can deliver better results. And, uh, then it gets better, and it gets better. And it gets better. Because there are a lot of times when people say and I used to say that a couple of times in the past, okay, so I’m aware of that, or I know that. And then something happens, and you’re doing more work, deeper work, and then you go much more in depth, and you understand that there is much more to it. You think you know it all, but then there’s another ocean ahead of you.
Lyssa Yeah, that’s right. You made it to the moon, but there’s like, stars and planets beyond.
Angelos Exactly. I think it’s competent, surely, on one hand. But on the other hand, as you’re moving to the mastery and I don’t know if you have experience. I, uh, think so. At some, uh, point, I reflected in the system what changed, and now I am there, in the end, to see. I think one of the things that has changed for me is that I enjoyed more. Now, I enjoyed more. Of course, it’s great for the client, I guess, especially judging from my first experience, uh, a number of years ago, my first experience with an MCC coach. Uh, one of the things that was very impressive for me is that I didn’t quite realize went into the conversation started, but I said, Whoa, have we already started? It felt so organic.
Lyssa Right? Yeah. So there’s this sort of, um, again, the weaving of the competencies in such a way that it is a natural feeling conversation. Not a stilted or scripted kind of conversation, but, um, really natural, meaningful conversation. Yeah. What would you say is your sort of biggest AHA of what you didn’t know when you started to where you are now? And what you know to be true for you about your coaching.
Angelos My coaching, uh, competency or the coaching as a profession or.
Lyssa Anything. What shifted, like, when you began, you didn’t know what you didn’t know, and now you may still not know what you don’t know, but you know something different than you did when you started.
Angelos Well, uh, you would expect that there are a number of thoughts, but I’m just thinking right now, from the top of my head. I would say that at some point, one important was when I became aware that, um, of the potential that I have. But if I let, uh, go, uh, there’s so much more to do and so much more to create. And, uh, it was something that, um, it is meaningful for me. And I don’t know if the listeners, the viewers can resonate with that, but there was a threshold when I understood that, okay, there is so much more, and I can unleash that. There’s so much more. And the more I allow myself to get on the field, let’s say, and do the practice, wonderful things are coming up.
Lyssa Yeah. Um, you had said you were having more fun earlier, and then this state of being in this kind of open curiosity and just allowing kind of like your own emergence. Right. Like, it was dormant there, but then it emerged, and an emergence in a conversation of maybe what’s meaningful, if I’m understanding you correctly.
Angelos Yes, you’re right. Something that it’s meaningful. And you realize that, uh, there are so many other things that you can create that you can experiment. I’m saying create to create, and to create again, because, uh, obviously, um, to allow yourself to be creative and to find, um, the context to be creative, to find the opportunity to become creative, to exercise your creativity. And, uh, then, of course, to understand that the more that you do, the more you practice, the better it becomes. The better you become, um, creates more by itself.
Lyssa Yeah. It’s kind of like that wheel of growth of that wheel that is churning of growth. When you think back, I guess the question that’s showing up right now is really when you think back, what was the most challenging element of, uh, this journey that you’ve been on for you as a human being? Becoming. Right.
Angelos The more challenging items, the more challenging thing in changing career? Because…
Lyssa Maybe yeah. What was the challenging piece of because if that was really challenging, I’d love to hear, like, what was challenging about changing your career and how did you navigate that?
Angelos Well? Um yes, thank you. This is an interesting question. And, um, training people to become coaches, and some of them consider to start their own private practice, uh, it’s always a challenge to, uh, change careers, shift careers. I don’t know about the States, but it might be a cultural thing. What I understand a lot of people where I live, um, frown upon anyone who changes careers. Uh, this kind of mindset that you should, uh, only choose career once.
Lyssa You should.
Angelos Follow that forever.
Lyssa Forever.
Angelos Right. So it feels like you need to find uh, um, strength inside of you. Because you understand that when you started, uh, initiating a change, you’re not sure yourself either. You don’t it wouldn’t feel reasonable to expect others to support you when they don’t know, um, and you don’t know exactly whether you will be good at it or not. You’re still experimenting. You have an idea, you have a fascinating idea. You become passionate about that uh, and you want to move forward and um, it might lead to success or it might lead to failure. I think, uh, the challenge about, uh, the possible failure in the future is always a challenge for organizations and, uh, individuals as well. So I think this was my main challenge. I, uh, had to really, um, put an armor around, um, me so that I won’t be easy, uh, to be influenced by other voices that won’t hold me down and understand that, uh, it’s difficult. It’s not an easy way to move forward, especially when you don’t know it. Often you don’t know, uh, something that you have not done. You don’t know that, you don’t know how that works. You don’t know how that works as a profession and you don’t know how good you will be, uh, when you will be practicing this location. So there are a number of issues, uh, to take into consideration. So I think that this uh, was my biggest challenge. And I think that, uh, one of the things that helped me find my strength is this, uh, mindset of positivity. When you’re, uh, uh, trying to find out which are the places, the things, the resources, the ideas, the mindset, uh, uh, uh, that can hold you, that can help you lift your head and allow your spine and move forward. And uh, it’s not always easy. Because sometimes it feels like you’re walking in moving sand and you want to uh, be constantly, uh, aware that you always need to look at what are the possible choices and opportunities here and not focus too much on the, uh, obstacles. Pretty much what you say coaching mhm.
Lyssa Yeah, pretty much the same thing. Yeah. There’s a couple of things that you said that I think are really important, uh, to highlight because I do think there’s probably cultural elements. Where you come from, a culture that says you were born, you created this career, you will now be in that career forever and there’s no changes allowed. And I think a lot of cultures are shifting that ideology a bit. But I think there are a lot of cultures that are like, you’ve got to decide forever when you’re 18 or 24 or something. Um, but even in cultures like the culture that I come from, where most people will have three to five careers, right? So it isn’t unknown for a person to move from like I did, from being, um, a waitress, to being an, uh, artist, to being a, uh, social worker, to being a coach. That was acceptable within my culture. It was still, as you’re talking, there’s still the challenge of I don’t know if I’m good enough. I don’t know, even with all the training and all the money I’m investing in this education, that it will ever turn into anything that will support me. Um, gosh, it would be so much easier if I could just get a job and work for somebody else where I know the paycheck will just come in. Um, and I think there is a lot of stepping through that doorway into that liminal space of not knowing, um, that entrepreneurs often are struggle with in a career change like this into coaching. So I really respect the struggle because I think I’ve experienced, and probably still do. It’s different now than it was when I first started. But there were just months and felt like years where I’m like, am I doing the right thing? Or should I cut bait and go somewhere else and do something different? And so that ability to kind of use that positive mindset or just even a rational mindset, of clear expectations of like, what is my expectation of how fast this is going to shift and move. And how long it actually takes you’ve built a school. I mean, that didn’t happen in six months. That took years probably, to really develop and continue working on and building out and finding people who would come to the school and all of that sort of stuff. Easier today than it probably was when you first started. Um, but yeah, the challenge is real, the struggle is real.
Angelos Yes. And in that process, as you’re doing that, you discover your strengths and um until I first trained my first group, uh, if I had not done that, I would never thought that I could stand in front of people, training them, and then I would never even thought that I would so much enjoy doing that. I think from that moment on, when I look back, sometimes I said, uh, I could have been crazy those years because I did all the changes very quickly. But I guess perhaps for me, there’s one other thing that was, uh, always good in organizing things. I had that, ah, kind of experiences, skills, so I knew how to organize that and it kind of came, well, not exactly like that, but not overnight. It doesn’t happen overnight. But, um, yes, of course, I think people trust your hard work and your passion and how well you organize things.
Lyssa Yeah, I think that’s a really good point too, which is how well you organize things as well as do you surround yourself with people who have a skill set? Maybe you don’t. So that you can be organized. I honestly have to have somebody to help me because sometimes I’m the opposite of organized. I’m like chaos some days, um, and not like organization, um, when you think about the work that you’re doing in your coaching as you continue to grow and develop, where is your focus of attention in your own coaching today?
Angelos My own coaching, it is to develop uh, coaching techniques and share those. I’ve always been interested and focused on quality and quality standards. And so, uh, this was one of my interest in, uh, all the times that I have been engaged with ICS on different, uh, occasions and, uh, as well as a professional and, uh, with our coaching training school. I’m always looking not just what are the minimum standards, but what I think is very essential, uh, and will, um, help this profession be credible and help the trainee, uh, be fully equipped with what he has to deal with when he’s working with, um, clients.
Lyssa Mhm, I was just thinking, what is one of those quality standards that you are really focusing your energy on?
Angelos I believe that the um, quality of uh, the syllabus of what the training is receiving from the school, the kind of mentoring they are getting, uh, supervision is very important. So I had provided supervision for reviewers back, uh, and uh, I asked them to get experience, uh, and reorganize the community of coaches so that uh, will allow the creation of uh, what we call cross pollination. So people can get different um, perceptions, uh, and borrow other people’s experiences that will help them catalyze their understanding and their progress in the coaching study.
Lyssa Yeah, I think that’s uh, so important. I mean, I really heard you say three things that is really around the quality of the education that you get, the quality of the mentorship that you get, and hopefully quality also, but that you’re also in some reflective practice like supervision that you’re really looking at and exploring your relationship to your work. I think all three of those things are so important. I do a lot of um, ICF PCC assessments right now and uh, the thing that is most surprising to me that is consistent between the people who pass and don’t pass is that you can tell that the people who pass have gotten good mentorship. They didn’t just have a chit chat with somebody who also had a, uh, higher credential than them and just sort of chat about coaching, but they really dove into their questions and into the work of what their coaching conversations were looking like. Because that’s how you move from just having a wandering conversation to actually demonstrating coaching, um, at a PCC level. Um, I had gone through the supervision program with, um, Coach Supervision Academy, um, not last year, but the year before. And I cannot even slightly under emphasize the value of, um, the reflective practice in our work. So I’m so glad you brought both of those forward. So glad.
Angelos Yes, I know what you’re saying, because that was trained by the same people that you were trained but in London.
Lyssa Nice. Yeah. And it’s an amazing process to go through, getting coach supervision training also, even if you’re never going to be a coach supervision partner with anybody, but rather the process of that self reflection in your coaching. Like, where do you get hooked? Where’s their transference and counter transference? Where we want to save people and keep them from ever being challenged or have a hard feeling or anything. Like, what is all that stuff that shows up in the space between two human beings? It’s just so incredibly important. Um, were you going to say something?
Angelos I was going to say that yes. When you, let’s say, home your reflective skills, then you can, uh, introduce that into your mentor coaching. And I think that was I remember back in the days when we were, uh, chapter presence, uh, so I think that back, uh, then I was pushing to create some kind of credentials for mental coaching. And this still has not been done. Although the overall situation with what, uh, are the requirements? Well, um, not exactly requirements, but I would say suggestions, um, what would make a good mentor coach, i, uh, think has progressed in that. But I believe there’s a lot to be done. And it’s important because, as she said, you cannot just believe, uh, that because you are good in coaching, that means that you can be good in mentor coaching, or that you can be a good coach, uh, trainer and so on.
Lyssa Yes, it’s so interesting too. I had a conversation when I was doing a mentor coaching session with somebody, and I had taken the transcript of what they had sent me, and I was just listening to it. They had not done a transcript, but I was capturing the words, um, as I was listening to the recording. And there was this thing that the coach stepped over that the client had brought forward. And when I mentioned it to the coach, like, what had you stepped over x? They were like, that didn’t happen. I never would have stepped over that. And so that’s the other thing about really looking at your work and seeing, um, in black and white on a page, what was said, what you heard, what you asked, is just crucial to developing your ear for what you’re listening for. Because I think there are so many places where we just listen over things because that isn’t where our attention is. Right. Like, that’s normal. But if you’re going to be a good mentor coach, how are you supporting people to have better self awareness of what their coaching is? When you think about this idea of, um, some sort of, um I don’t know what the word is exactly, but. When you’re looking at mentor coaching and you’re thinking of having a more robust expectation of mentor coaching. What does that look like in your mind?
Angelos Well, I think you have to be very clear about what is mentor coaching and what is assessing. Who is the assessor and whether the client m, uh, needs one or the other. And you want because sometimes there’s a confusion there for a reason. But I think that this is important on the one hand. On the other hand, I think, uh, feedback is a uh, difficult task. Uh, is ah, difficult to give feedback and it’s difficult to receive it back. Because we are humans.
Lyssa That’s right. And I was perfect. I was perfect. What are you talking about.
Angelos Exactly? Uh, you want to create that space, you want to feel to support your mentor coaching client, uh, to allow for and to be in that mindset. Um, so there are a number of things which you can prepare your client and how it will be better for them to prepare themselves and come to that space. But, uh, I think the most, uh, biggest weight of the role is, uh, you the Metro coach, because you have to make a connection. And this is very important. This is where you put your art, right? Make the connection so the other person will, um, be inspired by you. So the other person will feel that you care for them. So you create a safe space. So you are constantly aware and flexible and agile. So you can understand if that is too heavy for them, if you need to pay this down, or all the things. And then like the other person to share that kind of awareness or share, uh, their, um, part in co creating this awareness of how we are ah, dealing together. A, uh, little bit similar to what we’re doing in coaching, but very different because we’re not talking about the client here, we’re talking about you. That’s very different.
Lyssa Right? Yeah. And I think that we should never underestimate the power of shame aligned with feedback. Right. Like that. I should have done it better. How did I miss that? Like all the negative narrative that shows up for people when they’re getting like, what happened here? And they’re like, oh my gosh, um, what happened? I don’t know. Oh, I’m a terrible coach. And how do you move through that and see it just more as like, what do you know now as a result of having this newer awareness, like really shifting our relationship to feedback? I know I asked you what your biggest challenge was, and I think I align with your biggest challenge. But I also think learning to receive “feedback is positive, ” was a big challenge for me also. I don’t know about for you, but I know it was for me.
Angelos It is. But I think that, uh, so many of my clients, my coaching clients, are having feedback as a real challenge. So, uh, I don’t feel that the whole world’s burden is on my shoulder. Uh, there are a lot of us questions.
Lyssa Yes, there’s a lot of us. Rub our tummy. Rub our heart. I’m okay. M I’m okay. I’m okay. I’m okay. Angelos, what are you up to in the world today? What are you busy, busy in the world doing?
Angelos Well, I’m so curious about all the different things that are uh, being happening and how we can integrate that into coaching. So one of the big issues in the coaching world is diversity inclusion and understand where we really stand and not just jump on the train because it never works. Um, but I think there’s a uh, um, climate change was one of the issues that coaching, uh, can do something about that as well. But the new thing that is arising, getting my attention and I think for other people as well, is uh, what is happening in the “hopefully” post-pandemic world. Uh, uh, what is being called um, the great resignation which is called by the world, uh, economic Forum. So there are mindsets, people who are making choices differently. And we need to as we are um, coaches or trainers or supervisors or mentors or whatever, we are all those different hats. We need to be aware that um, there’s a shift in the world and we need to um, um, challenge ourselves to remain open. Because the times are changing… On the one hand. And I think that’s beautiful because if you don’t follow them to remain open, uh, and there will be mindful that they will be challenged and uh, there’s a role, uh, uh, change. So uh, at some point you need to take sight. Uh, I think that one of, ah, the most um, fascinating and inspiring commitments, uh, for ICF is to facilitate social change somehow. Uh, that somehow is a question we need to ask ourselves as practitioners. So where do we want to stand? But we need to become aware of what is really happening out there.
Lyssa Yeah, not with defensiveness, but with just open minded curiosity so that we can actually choose differently. Uh, I’ll be putting links to where viewers can find you. Um, so I’ll put in a bunch of different links for our conversation today. And as my closing question, this is the thing I’ve been asking people. Off the top of your head, you don’t need to explain it, but if you were writing your autobiography today, what would the title be?
Angelos Oh, that’s a difficult one.
Lyssa Of course it is.
Angelos Let me start from the first question. Uh, people can find me on my podcast and they can find under the name of Positivity, which is the name. Of the school.
Lyssa I’m going to be putting all those links in. Yet they’ll find you easy. They’ll just press the button.
Angelos Okay. And of course in the website, uh, the website of uh, our coaching training school, which is Positivity Global, uh, and they can find the link to the podcast there as well. Spotify, Google, Apple, and so on. So, to go back to the question about the autobiography, uh, I remember a song that used to be a heat when we were young. Dreams are my reality, the only kind of reality or real fantasy. We are doing this thing. Uh, we are coaches and we are so inspired and passionate about coaching. And, um, I think, um, based on the stories that we both shared here, I think that coaching, uh, is a part of us and has also helped us become who we are. So I think this allows us… thank you for reminding me. Um, I just reminded connected with, uh, a big truth, uh, of, uh, my personal truth. That I realized earlier on that what it’s very important for me is to find a vehicle that will allow me to change, develop and change, and not to be chained in something, just to play a role. Coaching for that. The main reason that I chose coaching for a very very personal thing, uh, was that not only that it will allow me to change, but it will help me, it will support me to change, to ever evolve. And, um, uh, this still sound fascinating for me. So I think that, uh, um, the title of the autobiography could be that Dreams Are My Reality.
Lyssa Dreams are my reality. I love it. Thank you so much for being on the coaching studio today, angelos gosh, I just really enjoyed our time together.
Angelos Me too, thank you very much, Lyssa. It was great meeting you and uh, answering these questions.

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Lyssa deHart, LICSW, MCC

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Lyssa deHart ditched her therapy practice to become a Leadership Confidence Coach. Along the way she discovered a passion for professional coaching and wanted to find ways to share that passion with the world. Come join her in discovering and meeting some of the most amazing professional coaches on the planet. Her goal is to inspire coaches. Lyssa is the author of StoryJacking: Change Your Dialogue, Transform Your Life , and The Reflective Coach. Lyssa is an ICF PCC Assessor, Certified Mentor Coach, and budding Coach SuperVisor. Lyssa uses her understanding of the ICF Core Competencies, combined with her knowledge of Neuroscience, to work with people to become extraordinary professional coaches. Let's Go!

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